Where is He? – Jelaluddin Rumi

 I tried to find Him on the Christian cross, but He was not there; I went to the Temple of the Hindus and to the old pagodas but I could not find a trace of Him anywhere.

I searched on the mountains and in the valleys but neither in the heights nor  in the depths was I able to find Him. I went to the Kaaba in Mecca, but He was  not there either.

I questioned the scholars and philosophers but He was beyond their understanding.

I then looked into my heart and it was there where He dwelled that I saw Him : He was nowhere else to be found.

Jelaluddin Rumi

I took a picture of his tomb in Konya, Turkey. Click here to see it.

Some other quotes by Rumi:

This quote below we used on the homepage of the HopeCaravan website, which is no longer active. However, the yahoo group still is on the net though it is no longer active.

“Come, come, whoever you are.
Wanderer, worshipper, lover of leaving.
It doesn’t matter.
Ours is not a caravan of despair.
Come, even if you have broken your vow
A hundred times.
Come, yet again, come, come.”

Other quotes which have touched me include:

“Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”

“Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there.”

“Only from the heart can you touch the sky.”

“Let the beauty of what you love be what you do.”

“You were born with wings. Why prefer to crawl through life?”


9 Responses to Where is He? – Jelaluddin Rumi

  1. Aztec says:

    Indeed great words. Rumi is truly great. Humans are not aware about the fact that He never resides in the temples or churches or mosques. Nor does He resides as an object. He is everywhere in everything.

  2. Arsalaan says:

    Thank you for the lovely quotes. However be aware that “Come, Come whoever you are….” is not a Rumi poem, but has been recopied from a mistaken manuscript many times.

    • stavr0s says:

      Do you know which “mistaken scripts” it comes from? If so, please tell us here.
      Thanks for your comment.


      • Arsalaan Fay says:

        see foot not 84
        …….This is one of the most frequently quoted poems attributed to Rumi, but is not authenticated as his (and it is also not in the earliest manuscripts of the quatrains attributed to him). It is found in the same form in the quatrains of Bâbâ Afzaluddîn Kâshânî (died 1274– Rumi died 1273) and is related to a similar quatrain attributed to Abu Sa`îd ibn Abi ‘l-Khayr, died 1048 (see “Nobody, Son of Nobody: Poems of Shaikh Abu-Saeed Abil-Kheir,” renditions by Vraje Abramian, 2001, p. 4, c). It is one among the most frequently quoted poems by Turkish Mevlevis (the “Whirling Dervishes”) themselves (who have long assumed it to be a Rumi poem), from a Turkish translation of the original Persian.

        Note: this is translated from Turkish
        scroll down to question
        Q: Sir, is the quatrain (rubai) “Come! Come again! Whoever, whatever you may be, come!” understood by contemporary people, right?
        A: (partial) This quatrain does not belong to Mevlana, and this is already known by everyone. The library official at the dergah, the Mevlevi dervish lodge, the late Necati Bey, had seen this quatrain written in old calligraphy on a sheet. Without searching for the its origin, he spread the rumor everywhere that it was a Mevlana quatrain. Whereas, this quatrain is introduced as belonging to someone else in an anthology called “Harabat,” that was prepared by Ziya Pasha. I saw that in another handwritten quatrain as well; nevertheless, because Mevlana has many quatrains like this one, and even some more enthusiastic ones, it might also be accepted as a Mevlana quatrain. This is not very important. The main problem is about those who are unaware of the spirit of this quatrain and take it on the surface, in addition to those who created this situation.

  3. stavr0s says:

    Thank you.

    I agree with the last couple of sentences in your quote, “….it might also be accepted as a Mevlana quatrain. This is not very important. The main problem is about those who are unaware of the spirit of this quatrain and take it on the surface, in addition to those who created this situation.”

    It is NOT important who actually wrote the quatrain. As in many things spiritual and essential, we must arrive at the meaning through our own efforts and understanding. There is no one else who can tell us the meaning of any sacred text, except the Spirit Within. We always want to be correct and we think that being correct is that which is stated by some authority. However, if true correctness is measured by our own inner meaning then we have no need of gurus and masters because we will find the Teacher is Life itself and the dialogue between Teacher and Student is the act of living through one’s conscience, or as William Blake wrote – “con – innate – science”.


  4. Arsalaan Fay says:

    Dear Stavros: Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I can only disagree on one point. I agree that whoever authored the quote is not important, to the the message. However to assign authorship to the wrong person in order to get readers is either error or disingenuous. Please note that I do not consider you to be disingenuous, only a reader of what has been published in error.
    Due to poor translations (read: not from Persian)and creative selection in order to sell books, we often receive solicitations for emotion from Mevlana’s (Rumi’s)poetry rather than genuine spiritual practice/instruction. Actually studying the Rumi’s literature can help us gain insight into Life.
    As an aside: Rumi’s literature is full of instructions that we need a teacher.

    • stavr0s says:

      Hi Arsalaan
      I agree with you. I should have said that one needs a Teacher initially to point the way. I don’t think that everyone is capable of following Krishnamurti’s injunction to have no Teacher, particularly since he himself had a whole Theosophical Establishment to teach him!

      The problem is that often people become dependent on a human teacher and forget that the True Teacher is Within.

      How does one move away from an external authority to be guided by one within? How do I recognise in a true way that He lives in my Heart, and not just spouse pretty words?


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